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14 years 3 months ago #92207 by paulgreco
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So I have the wonderful k2 running on a test/beta site beta.fantasypros911.com.  I've been trying to no have the K2 categories show up in the url but they still do.  I went into the K2 parameter and set 'sh404SEF URL category prefix for items' to 'no categories' but they still continue to show up.

 

All I want to do is have the url and article name.  For example : http://sitename/articlename

 

not http://sitename/category/subcategory/articlename

 

Thanks for the help,

Paul

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14 years 2 months ago #92208 by canderson
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Bumping this as I have the same exact question. :)

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14 years 2 months ago #92209 by Craig Pearson
Replied by Craig Pearson on topic K2 and SH404SEF
After you  made the change did you clear out the URLs in 404 and click your home link on your site to regenerate your URLs?

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14 years 2 months ago #92210 by canderson
Replied by canderson on topic K2 and SH404SEF
Hm, I don't see where to clear out the articles (I don't have the 404 component installed, just using the pre-loaded K2 404 parameters).

What's odd on my site is I am having a mix; some categories/menus are displaying properly and some are giving item/id#/ etc

For example: www.witf.info/news/statehousesoundbites/item/14937-a-closer-look-at-wednesdays-house-rules-kerfuffle is a News category item

www.witf.info/about/mobile is an article that's tied to the menu with Menu Item

I just want to have the item info killed - I've read so much about extensions but can't seem to find one that works (granted, I haven't paid for the 404 extension as of yet). I tried JoomSEF for K2 but it won't install properly.

Thanks!Craig Pearson said:

After you  made the change did you clear out the URLs in 404 and click your home link on your site to regenerate your URLs?

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14 years 2 months ago #92211 by Craig Pearson
Replied by Craig Pearson on topic K2 and SH404SEF
Sorry - I was only answering the titled topic as I'm using sef404 - there is no interface for standard Joomla urls so can't answer that. Been using 404 for a while on 15 sites - can be a little strange at times but once you know how to handle it it works pretty good.

Chris Anderson said:
Hm, I don't see where to clear out the articles (I don't have the 404 component installed, just using the pre-loaded K2 404 parameters).

What's odd on my site is I am having a mix; some categories/menus are displaying properly and some are giving item/id#/ etc

For example: www.witf.info/news/statehousesoundbites/item/14937-a-closer-... is a News category item

www.witf.info/about/mobile is an article that's tied to the menu with Menu Item

I just want to have the item info killed - I've read so much about extensions but can't seem to find one that works (granted, I haven't paid for the 404 extension as of yet). I tried JoomSEF for K2 but it won't install properly.

Thanks!Craig Pearson said:

After you  made the change did you clear out the URLs in 404 and click your home link on your site to regenerate your URLs?

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14 years 2 months ago #92212 by canderson
Replied by canderson on topic K2 and SH404SEF
No worries, Does sef404 work well with K2? I've read mixed reviews - some to the point that it doesn't work with K2 whatsoever!

This site has only K2 content, no Joomla articles whatsoever. All menus are K2 compliant as well. Craig Pearson said:

Sorry - I was only answering the titled topic as I'm using sef404 - there is no interface for standard Joomla urls so can't answer that. Been using 404 for a while on 15 sites - can be a little strange at times but once you know how to handle it it works pretty good.
Chris Anderson said:
Hm, I don't see where to clear out the articles (I don't have the 404 component installed, just using the pre-loaded K2 404 parameters).

What's odd on my site is I am having a mix; some categories/menus are displaying properly and some are giving item/id#/ etc

For example: www.witf.info/news/statehousesoundbites/item/14937-a-closer-... is a News category item

www.witf.info/about/mobile is an article that's tied to the menu with Menu Item

I just want to have the item info killed - I've read so much about extensions but can't seem to find one that works (granted, I haven't paid for the 404 extension as of yet). I tried JoomSEF for K2 but it won't install properly.

Thanks!Craig Pearson said:

After you  made the change did you clear out the URLs in 404 and click your home link on your site to regenerate your URLs?

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14 years 2 months ago #92213 by Olivier Karfis
Replied by Olivier Karfis on topic K2 and SH404SEF
Hi.

 

K2 does works very well with sh404 if you are satisfied with the limited URL building options you have (as compared to when using com_content & sh404) - Been using it on my commercial site www.frenchtoday.com for the last 80 days and I know of several others that do use it too.  

 

The K2/sh404 integration will only get better over time (both Joomlaworks and Dev Digital keep referencing each other as the SEF/CCK plug-in to use so they seem pretty tight).  Also, the new version of sh404 that was released this week can make use of 3rd party SEF extensions and I'll soon be testing it with one of the competing k2 SEF plugins to see how much better the integration can get.

 

Note: The sh404 options in K2 will ONLY work if you are using the sh404 component.

 

--Olivier


Chris Anderson said:

No worries, Does sef404 work well with K2? I've read mixed reviews - some to the point that it doesn't work with K2 whatsoever!

This site has only K2 content, no Joomla articles whatsoever. All menus are K2 compliant as well. Craig Pearson said:

Sorry - I was only answering the titled topic as I'm using sef404 - there is no interface for standard Joomla urls so can't answer that. Been using 404 for a while on 15 sites - can be a little strange at times but once you know how to handle it it works pretty good. Chris Anderson said:
Hm, I don't see where to clear out the articles (I don't have the 404 component installed, just using the pre-loaded K2 404 parameters).

What's odd on my site is I am having a mix; some categories/menus are displaying properly and some are giving item/id#/ etc

For example: www.witf.info/news/statehousesoundbites/item/14937-a-closer-... is a News category item

www.witf.info/about/mobile is an article that's tied to the menu with Menu Item

I just want to have the item info killed - I've read so much about extensions but can't seem to find one that works (granted, I haven't paid for the 404 extension as of yet). I tried JoomSEF for K2 but it won't install properly.

Thanks!Craig Pearson said:

After you  made the change did you clear out the URLs in 404 and click your home link on your site to regenerate your URLs?

Owner of www.FrenchToday.com - K2 fan and freelancer, runs the Joomla/K2 tip site: www.yanaku.com

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14 years 2 months ago #92214 by Craig Pearson
Replied by Craig Pearson on topic K2 and SH404SEF
Have not had too many issues with K2 and Sef404 and as mentioned, will only get better and the new version with extra plug in support looks nice. I Use k2 for main content and joomla pages for landing pages and single page content as seen here:

www.cos-mag.com/
Chris Anderson said:

No worries, Does sef404 work well with K2? I've read mixed reviews - some to the point that it doesn't work with K2 whatsoever!

This site has only K2 content, no Joomla articles whatsoever. All menus are K2 compliant as well. Craig Pearson said:

Sorry - I was only answering the titled topic as I'm using sef404 - there is no interface for standard Joomla urls so can't answer that. Been using 404 for a while on 15 sites - can be a little strange at times but once you know how to handle it it works pretty good. Chris Anderson said:
Hm, I don't see where to clear out the articles (I don't have the 404 component installed, just using the pre-loaded K2 404 parameters).

What's odd on my site is I am having a mix; some categories/menus are displaying properly and some are giving item/id#/ etc

For example: www.witf.info/news/statehousesoundbites/item/14937-a-closer-... is a News category item

www.witf.info/about/mobile is an article that's tied to the menu with Menu Item

I just want to have the item info killed - I've read so much about extensions but can't seem to find one that works (granted, I haven't paid for the 404 extension as of yet). I tried JoomSEF for K2 but it won't install properly.

Thanks!Craig Pearson said:

After you  made the change did you clear out the URLs in 404 and click your home link on your site to regenerate your URLs?

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14 years 2 months ago #92215 by Olivier Karfis
Replied by Olivier Karfis on topic K2 and SH404SEF
Yes, I too also use Joomla articles for landing pages so that I can better control the URL.

--Olivier


Craig Pearson said:

Have not had too many issues with K2 and Sef404 and as mentioned, will only get better and the new version with extra plug in support looks nice. I Use k2 for main content and joomla pages for landing pages and single page content as seen here:

www.cos-mag.com/ Chris Anderson said:

No worries, Does sef404 work well with K2? I've read mixed reviews - some to the point that it doesn't work with K2 whatsoever!

This site has only K2 content, no Joomla articles whatsoever. All menus are K2 compliant as well. Craig Pearson said:

Sorry - I was only answering the titled topic as I'm using sef404 - there is no interface for standard Joomla urls so can't answer that. Been using 404 for a while on 15 sites - can be a little strange at times but once you know how to handle it it works pretty good. Chris Anderson said:Hm, I don't see where to clear out the articles (I don't have the 404 component installed, just using the pre-loaded K2 404 parameters).

What's odd on my site is I am having a mix; some categories/menus are displaying properly and some are giving item/id#/ etc

For example: www.witf.info/news/statehousesoundbites/item/14937-a-closer-... is a News category item

www.witf.info/about/mobile is an article that's tied to the menu with Menu Item

I just want to have the item info killed - I've read so much about extensions but can't seem to find one that works (granted, I haven't paid for the 404 extension as of yet). I tried JoomSEF for K2 but it won't install properly.

Thanks!Craig Pearson said:

After you  made the change did you clear out the URLs in 404 and click your home link on your site to regenerate your URLs?

Owner of www.FrenchToday.com - K2 fan and freelancer, runs the Joomla/K2 tip site: www.yanaku.com

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14 years 2 months ago #92216 by BBC
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Olivier.....If i set up sh404SEF that no category shows in URL, (just homepage + Item ID + Item Alias).

 

May i then move Items from one category to another without fear for punishment in Google ?

And would sh404SEF automatically recognise movement ?

 

What is best solution for moving Items (or Joomla Articles) between categories ?

 

With SEF native ? And with sh4040SEF ?

I guess SEF native requires lot of changes in core code.

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14 years 2 months ago #92217 by Olivier Karfis
Replied by Olivier Karfis on topic K2 and SH404SEF
Quick answers below: 



Olivier.....If i set up sh404SEF that no category shows in URL, (just homepage + Item ID + Item Alias).

May i then move Items from one category to another without fear for punishment in Google ?

And would sh404SEF automatically recognise movement ?

 

>>sh404 should automatically recognize the move if the original URL was also managed by sh404 (meaning it was enabled & used before the move).  If the actual URL changes then it will set up what it calls an 'alias' which will generate a 301 code and a redirect to the new URL (recommended method by Google so you don't loose your page rank)

 

What is best solution for moving Items (or Joomla Articles) between categories ?

 

>>Not sure what you are asking. Just check all the articles/items you want to move then click on Move and select the new category.

 

With SEF native ? And with sh4040SEF ?

 

>> The moving method is the same.  As mentioned in the 1st point, sh404 should see the change and create aliases, if you need, you can also manually create aliases (some of my pages have 4-5 aliases that have kept track of the structure changes during 2 years of an evolving site)

 

I guess SEF native requires lot of changes in core code.

 

>> There is very little user control over the way the URLs are created by the built-in SEF engine, that's why people use sh404 or other SEF extensions.  Through the sh404 interface, you can select if you want your URLs to have things like the itemID, the name of the category and/or alias, an extension like .htm at the end, the name of the view, etc... It's very customizable for Joomla articles, there are a lot less options for K2 items unfortunately (but the key ones are there). sh404 also can also do nice things like add your site name after your page title or automatically create missing metatags...

 

--Olivier

Owner of www.FrenchToday.com - K2 fan and freelancer, runs the Joomla/K2 tip site: www.yanaku.com

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14 years 2 months ago #92218 by BBC
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Wait.......i have sh404SEF all the time. And i don´t see any inteligent redirect when i move articles to another Category (let´s say Archive)

 

I get plain, simple 404, not found and error page.

 

To make it more clear. In Google webmaster tool i see error links, and when i click at them i get sh404SEF error page, at my site.

 

I do sometimes purge all SEF cache. But what to do when sh404SEF becomes mad, and get errors at frontpage.

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14 years 2 months ago #92219 by Olivier Karfis
Replied by Olivier Karfis on topic K2 and SH404SEF
Hi BBC,

 

You are completely correct. I typed too quickly and was off.  I've been building manual aliases for so long with sh404 that I forgot sh404 did not do that automatically - although depending what you choose to show in your URLs, a move might not require manual aliases (ex: if you only show section name & move articles between sub-categories, then the SEF links would still work).

 

I might need more sleep :-)

 

--Olivier
BBC said:

Wait.......i have sh404SEF all the time. And i don´t see any inteligent redirect when i move articles to another Category (let´s say Archive)

 

I get plain, simple 404, not found and error page.

 

To make it more clear. In Google webmaster tool i see error links, and when i click at them i get sh404SEF error page, at my site.

 

I do sometimes purge all SEF cache. But what to do when sh404SEF becomes mad, and get errors at frontpage.

Owner of www.FrenchToday.com - K2 fan and freelancer, runs the Joomla/K2 tip site: www.yanaku.com

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14 years 2 months ago #92220 by BBC
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OK, thanks...it´s more clear now. Just K2 has not Sections, but you can simulate them.

I am asking most for people i have to leave sites. Don´t like to loose time making them sites and then they will not be anywhere in Google.

Work for nothing. (you can guess that i don´t earn nothing building sites, not yet)

 

I will try to skip Categories (and Sections) everywhere in links (not only K2). But then you have to trust them that they will not use same Title somewhere. There goes Item ID, i was asking for.

 

And btw, i don´t like at all road sh404SEF is taking. Honeypot, analytics, security almost as real firewall, Use table-less output !!??, etc...etc...

 

Soon will we have a image gallery in sh404SEF.

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14 years 2 months ago #92221 by Olivier Karfis
Replied by Olivier Karfis on topic K2 and SH404SEF
If other people are creating pages then I recommend you do use at least the "show last category" option in the K2 sh404 options, it will avoid many dupes issues (although not eliminate them).

 

I agree with you, I really wish sh404 focused on improving their core functionality (like adding better tracking for moved articles, global redirects...) rather than branching into all these non-related features :-(

 

--Olivier
BBC said:

OK, thanks...it´s more clear now. Just K2 has not Sections, but you can simulate them.

I am asking most for people i have to leave sites. Don´t like to loose time making them sites and then they will not be anywhere in Google.

Work for nothing. (you can guess that i don´t earn nothing building sites, not yet)

 

I will try to skip Categories (and Sections) everywhere in links (not only K2). But then you have to trust them that they will not use same Title somewhere. There goes Item ID, i was asking for.

 

And btw, i don´t like at all road sh404SEF is taking. Honeypot, analytics, security almost as real firewall, Use table-less output !!??, etc...etc...

 

Soon will we have a image gallery in sh404SEF.

Owner of www.FrenchToday.com - K2 fan and freelancer, runs the Joomla/K2 tip site: www.yanaku.com

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14 years 1 month ago #92222 by BBC
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Small update to this. Maybe it can help someone.

 

Best way is to disable completely category name and use just domain name + title (or Alias) + Item ID.

www.mysite.com/name-of-the-item-381

 

In components/com_k2/sef_ext/com_k2.phpfind$title[] = $row->title;

(or $title[] = $row->alias;)

 

change to$title[] = $row->title.' '.$id;

 

That way you don´t have to worry when you move Items between Categories. You get ItemID at the end of URL. And you can have Items with same Titles (aliases).

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