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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #152173 by Philip Curnow
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I read that sh404SEF integration has been decoupled from K2 core. We still use the last version of sh404SEF before it became Weeblr (and K2 v 2.6.9). Will upgrading to K2 v2.7..0. have any unwanted effects? eg lose all the settings already in the sh404SEF integretion fields in K2 parameters? tks
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9 years 1 month ago #152187 by Lefteris
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Hi,

Yes, the SH404SEF integration has been removed completely, including the parameters.

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9 years 1 month ago #152213 by Kasper Schuster Haaning Hansen
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So it wont be possible to use sh404sef together with K2 2.7.0?

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9 years 1 month ago #152236 by Kelsey Brookes
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Weeblr (the makers of sh404SEF) have been aware of the change to K2 for nearly six months now. sh404SEF already works without dedicated settings in K2.

I've just had a look at the site that I've upgraded and all URLs continue to work as before, even those modified in sh404SEF.

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9 years 1 month ago #152239 by Panagiotis Sakellariou
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Yes sure they do, since they are in sh404's table in the database. Try creating a new item and see what happens

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9 years 1 month ago #152240 by Kasper Schuster Haaning Hansen
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I think I'll stick to 2.6.9 then, cause I don't want to start all over again, as i have other things than just K2, relying on sh404SEF.

What I think is, that Weeblr has had the same idea as a lot of people, that K2 2.7.0 and K2 3 wasn't going to see the light of day, and because of that they wouldn't do anything.

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9 years 1 month ago #152253 by Philip Curnow
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Historically in 'K2 Parameters - Advanced - sh404SEF integration' there are settings such as 'sh404SEF URL prefix for users', 'sh404SEF URL category prefix for items' and 'Use 'Title Alias' (instead of 'Title') for K2 URLs '. We use all three in conjunction with sh404SEF and we get our nice SEF urls.

The point which has not been clearly answered is this. In K2 v 2.7.0. these parameters have been decoupled, so will the historically nice SEF urls now lose their 'prefix for users' or 'Title alias' etc?

Weeblr have told me that they expect upcomng K2 plugins for sh404SEF by JoomlaWorks to resolve any changes. Upcoming commercial plugins are also announced by Fotis.

Logically, there is no problem, but I am also reluctant to upgrade to K2 V 2.7.0 at the moment, although I really really want to!

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9 years 1 month ago #152254 by Panagiotis Sakellariou
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Let me put your mind at ease. There is absolutely nothing of significance to be gained by "upgrading" to k2 2.7 . As it stands now, it is more of a downgrade than anything else. If you have any php knowledge you can check the files and compare them one by one to 2.6.9. and you'll then see for yourself. K2 2.7 is just one step towards stripping k2 of useful features (a process that will be complete with k2 v.3 ), so that they can provide these features later on through commercial plugins. That's fine by me, what is not fine is the fact that they release what they call an upgrade, without releasing the necessary commercial plugins as well.

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9 years 1 month ago #152275 by Krikor Boghossian
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@Panagiotis, the sh404sef plugin will released this week.

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9 years 1 month ago #152483 by Kelsey Brookes
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A quick note on this after playing around with 2.7 on one of my active sites - yes, sh404SEF fails to create the nicely formatted URLs in 2.6.8, so they're on par with the Joomla router.

But you can still edit them in sh404SEF without a problem.

So for sites with large numbers of URLs generated daily, it's probably worth waiting for the sh404SEF plugin.

For everyone else, it's the work of a few seconds to update the URL.

And yeah, while it's not super special to remove functionality so you can build plugins to charge for it, there have been many, many instances over the years of people asking how they could pay/donate to Joomlaworks to get work done faster.

Congrats. You will now have a way.

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9 years 1 month ago #152502 by Philip Curnow
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Excellent feedback. We have almost 3000 items. We'll wait for the plugin and happily pay. You can have too much of a free thing!

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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #152599 by Ivica Dajak
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I also have some 3000 items (on just one site alone), and hundreds of items on some others. I rushed and upgraded most of them (initially I overlooked lack of SH404SEF integration and everything else seemed fine).

I have two questions:

1. I used 'all categories' prefix option ie: news/sports/ . Would that be possible with the excpeting sh404SEF plugin? And, will it be out any time soon? I will need to review my sh404SEF tables on some sites as they now contain 2-3 differently constructed links for some items.
2. what about downgrading to 2.6.9. now when 2.7 is already installed? Is it an option?

And one notice - Using current 2.7 'Advanced SEF settings, I can't turn off 'use category ID'.. I turn it off - but it still comes up. Something wrong?

I am happy to see K2 moving forward and I don't mind paying for some plugins. But I don't want to lose functionalities - I need 'backward compatibility'.
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9 years 4 weeks ago #152646 by Krikor Boghossian
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Hello Ivo,

1. This option can be replicated by using the default menu structure URl.
2. This is also an option but I would strongly recommend backing up first.
3. We will look into this.

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9 years 4 weeks ago #152715 by Ivica Dajak
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1. How do you mean? Using built in SEF or sh404SEF? I usualy find my way around both well, and I do have menu structure compliant to categories - just I don't see how?
Although I'm bit reluctant to change anything completely around as there are other things than k2 on the site - and it's around for 3 years, a lot of SE, social and other links

2. Glad to hear it, I may try it - but I would like to be able to stick with new versions for compatibility and safety reasons - specially in the future.

Another question - would I be able to solve the issue with the announced sh404SEF plugin? Again - I don't mind paying - as long as it works :)

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9 years 4 weeks ago - 9 years 4 weeks ago #152716 by Ivica Dajak
Replied by Ivica Dajak on topic sh404SEF integration
I tried with built in SEF and menus... however I can't get rid of item/itemnumber- part of the URL. Athough as I said - I would prefer to stick to sh404 - because of all other parts of the site and all other URLs.

Another question: Where can I download latest 2.6x to try with downgrade while I wait for plugin/upgrade?
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9 years 4 weeks ago #152718 by Jack Hughes
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Is there any update on when the SH404sef plugin will be available. This disconnection between K2 and SH404 could not have at a worse time!

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9 years 4 weeks ago - 9 years 4 weeks ago #152725 by Panagiotis Sakellariou
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I just uploaded it for you in the first "free share files" result of google. I do not know if the service is any good (if it has pop up ads etc)
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9 years 4 weeks ago #152751 by Krikor Boghossian
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@Jack, @Panagiotis You can get it from here: getk2.org/downloads/?f=K2_v2.6.9.zip

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9 years 4 weeks ago #152771 by JoomlaWorks
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K2 Plugin for sh404SEF >> Read about the new release here: www.joomlaworks.net/blog/item/263-new-extension-k2-plugin-for-sh404sef

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