Troponin, you are not right. K2 i joomlaworks's component, not mine. It's gpl and i can do whatever i want with it. I am BTW Joomlaworks customer (i bought few extentions) and i expect k2 to be updated to work with them!

We do not push the k2 developers - we only wanted to know if they are going to release version of k2 for joomla 1.7 .

 

And now he told that is going to release verson. So all of you,  please be patient and wait few more weeks.

 

BTW Fotis told that this is RC .

Regards, Kiril , eu-bloger.eu

hi Troponin

how do you expect people to test stuff and spend time debugging issues if the team behind it doesnt answer a topic of 86+ posts .. its like asking people to spend time looking for bugs for nothing .. if the team takes a min to say " hey we are still there and we are going to continue support 1.7 can we please help us in beta testing " then things will be different .. you wouldnt find people complaining about lack of communication.. if joomlaworks excpect people to know that they will continue updating their extensions without saying so .. they are wrong!
Troponin said:

Hey Folks,

 

I think there are always two sides of the Story.

The first thing is that Fotis and his Team dont give enough Information to the Community (like I told him on Twitter) espacially for next Releases, when will Allvidoes Plugin Joomla 1.7 ready etc.

 

On the other Hand I ask me what did you all do to get the SVN 2.5 stable ? You all scream for a Stable K2 Joomla 1.7 Version. But there are just a few of you who posted known Bugs. So I have to ask who of you really tried the SVN 2.5 ?

And what did you do to get K2 faster for Joomla 1.7 ?

 

AllVideos Plugin isnt available for 1.7 at the moment. But it is released under GPL. So who tried to convert it to 1.7 ?

 

"Open Source matters" its all for taking and giving.

But if I look in the K2 Community Forum it looks like the most always taking. Too many unreplied Threads of People who need help.

 

So grab your on nose and trie to think about what can you do to get a good working K2 for Joomla 1.7

 

just my five cent.

 

 

regards

Thorsten

Hi Nani,

 

like I wrote in my post you are right. Like I said I think tho informations from jomomlaworks are to small - against zero.

But a Community is just as good as people give and take. And the giving (answer questions) here is most times the same.

 

I understand it really that it is frustrating getting no Information. And I am in the same boat as you. I just wanted some people to remember that a little work from each other is a big help for everyone.

 

greets Thorsten

 

Nani Luis said:

hi Troponin

 .. if the team takes a min to say " hey we are still there and we are going to continue support 1.7 can we please help us in beta testing " t...

 

 

 As was said by Warrick I support K2 by buying joomlaworks plug-ins for K2. Is this not good enough? I don't have time to beta test every plug_in I use


 

Open source works by people sharing INFORMATION as much as code... There is no point in creating something and then asking everyone else to test/fix it for you if you have not done the ground work yourself.

I (like others) have stated that we love(d) K2, but if we are good at what we do (or really bad) it's unlikely we have time to test and test and test again if the 'developer' does not communicate by return. The fact that this thread has continued for almost 10 pages with NO 'official' response kind of proves the point that the 'open source' ethic is way out of balance.

 

Many of us have our livelyhood/businesses at risk when we can't get support... But that is often after-the-fact (something has gone wrong) and that is the 'risk' of open source rather than being able to scream at the author of commercial work. However to not even be given a clear idea of WHEN an up-to-date version of a large and very powerful but therefore crucial part of our sites/client sites will be working is just not good enough in my mind.

 

We are not talking about a small module that flashes a banner or something here... K2 is (for many) is a complete and fantastic system that just happens to require Joomla to function.

 

Troponin said:

Hi Nani,

 

like I wrote in my post you are right. Like I said I think tho informations from jomomlaworks are to small - against zero.

But a Community is just as good as people give and take. And the giving (answer questions) here is most times the same.

 

I understand it really that it is frustrating getting no Information. And I am in the same boat as you. I just wanted some people to remember that a little work from each other is a big help for everyone.

 

greets Thorsten

 

Nani Luis said:

hi Troponin

 .. if the team takes a min to say " hey we are still there and we are going to continue support 1.7 can we please help us in beta testing " t...

 

 

Umm can anyone get plugins to work in the new build?

 

{loadposition frontrss} for example is just showing the text and not pulling in the module I need?

 

Thanks

 

 

Developers of k2 .. you disappoint me for not replying all those people .. seriously like said in the blog comments .. you are unprofessional :)

hm x-posting ?

 

IMHO in the past Releases it wasn't working too.

Just SIGPro and AllVideos Plugin.

Warrick van den Heever said:

Make sure the editor you are using is not changing the html when you save. This can be changed I think you have to have permission under global configuration.

Hope this helps

Mark Foster said:

Umm can anyone get plugins to work in the new build?

 

{loadposition frontrss} for example is just showing the text and not pulling in the module I need?

 

Thanks

 

 

Thanks

 

Hmm sure I've used it before on other 1.5 sites. .

 

Yeah tried saving without an editor but no joy, ok will work around it

And the winner is... Zoo (I have decided to go learn zoo). it kind of reminds me of the day i dumped Modx for Wordpress... Modx was (at the time) in many was easier and better yet there just was not the interest or support.

i really can't be bothered to wait any longer for a worthwhile reply (from the developers). i know its a community but I just need a reliable WELL SUPPORTED system that will enable me to do the best and easiest job for my clients.

Time is money. A sad fact maybe but a fact nonetheless.

Hi Guys,

 

I am feeling your pain. Our website runs on K2 and Nbill. We have several K2 extensions. I love K2. It is easy an intuitive. Inheriting parameters is sweet. BUT we have got to press ahead. We developed an extension called K2 Expander. It rules. You can see it is action here: netshelter.com/marketers

I wanted to use this on our next template release. That means I have to build the site in 1.5. That's going backwards for us. 1.7 is here and we all have to embrace change. So we are going to port this extension over to Zoo also. Now we can do 1.7 for the template.

I too am amazed at the lack of response. It is amazing to me that this thread is so long. We are all obviously passionate about K2. I just wish the developers would say  "Hi." Let us know something. Anything. We've been holding out hope but we are starting to jump ship, right and left.

 

All I have read about Seblod also sounds amazing. I have yet to test it, but their users seem to love it and say it is a more complex to learn but super powerful. Once you master it, you won't need other extensions at all. It can do it all. That sounds pretty good huh? That is the problem for me as well. For my own needs, I might look into Seblod, but clients like the simplicity of K2. It is super easy to learn. Everything in a tidy package. I will be using Zoo on the new demo now so I am just getting started with it. Seems pretty sweet so far.

 

 

Hi Warrick,

 

Thanks. We didn't develop netshelter's website. We were brought in just to create this specific K2 extension for them, which we are planning on releasing for K2 and Zoo to the Joomla community. Our website is www.pixelpointcreative.com Depending on how things progress here, we might end up porting other K2 specific extensions over to zoo as well.

I have a question about zoo.  How do you use it compared with k2... i.e. is it free and or to you have to subscribe?  As well, what would you guys say is better?

my god what is seblod?  I can't say it is cool or not because I cant' even figure what the hell it is.  It looks like a bloody swiss army app. 

I think, it is absolutely nessecary to integrate the new J! ACL into K2.5+. It doesn´t make sense to stick with the JW authors and permissions system. If this is one of the major reasons why K2 is delayed... i don´t mind. Take your time to make it as smooth and integrated as it should be.

 

Has anyone got Allvideo working with 2.5.  I have it installed on J1.5 and tried both 2.5 and 3.3 version  of AllVideo.

this is what I'm getting.

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On a side note, I've been messing with Seblod 2.0 and think it is awesome.  So powerful and modular and you don't have to touch any code for layout of fields.  I'm still trying to teach myself between projects but it is an order of magnitude more powerful than k2 and the ui is very cool.    vimeo.com/channels/seblodcck

I tested it last night, If you use the embed code it is working.

It looked like there was more work to do on the provider tab to me and

I didnt try the upload to my server tab yet

Here you can read about the problems of using Zoo: forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=620&t=603676

thanks Tonttu...

I guess there are always problems/issues to overcome with any module/component... Much of which will be due to user inexperience and (hopefully not as much ) poor development/design/implementation by the creators/developer.

The thread is food for thought but i for one have waited now for some time and yet there is stil no FULL/Stable K2 for the lastest Joomla. it may come in the next few weeks isn't really good enough for me. I know how these things go... deadlines and develoment don't always get along but the ONE thing I CAN say with my years of web experience and client relations:

 

DIALOGUE speaks volumes. if you stay in touch with a client/customer/user and explain the issues while keeping them updated at regular intervals with progress, they usually accept that you are doing the best you can and will often back-off, giving you the space to work.

Not updating them or worse; iGNORING their attempts at communication will almost always result in loss of the client/customer/user.

 

And that seems to be the general theme of this thread from the very first post.

Zoo feels too closed, you have to pay to post in their forums, so even simple community interaction is behind a paywall. I have decided to go with Seblod after Joomla 1.8 (or whatever it will be called) is released. Seblod doesn't add a new layer of content, but uses Joomla's article system and this just feels right IMO.

Cool. After reading some other parts of the thread i'm thinking of giving Seblod a go too. :-)