King content...one zillion on/off buttons: no thanks.

Even today K2 v2.6.9 does a fine job, I use it with custom Bootstrap 3 templates all the time, there are no issues with the latest Joomla version, it just works. Sure the mootools issues are a pain in the ass, but you can get around that. There simply is nothing like k2 on the Joomla platform. The only features that are missing today are version control and a way to assign extra fields to items and not categories.

I'm sure K2 v3.0 will come and it will be great when it is ready.
But I must agree on the Joomlaworks 'communications problem'.

Just my 2 cents.

Ronny Van Der Borght wrote: King content...one zillion on/off buttons: no thanks.

Even today K2 v2.6.9 does a fine job, I use it with custom Bootstrap 3 templates all the time, there are no issues with the latest Joomla version, it just works. Sure the mootools issues are a pain in the ass, but you can get around that. There simply is nothing like k2 on the Joomla platform. The only features that are missing today are version control and a way to assign extra fields to items and not categories.

I'm sure K2 v3.0 will come and it will be great when it is ready.
But I must agree on the Joomlaworks 'communications problem'.

Just my 2 cents.

I have to agree with all the above. Plus K2 still does a flawless job for me with zero problems.

I don't disagree that K2 works fine at them moment, but what about the day a new Joomla update completely nukes it? What about new changes to the templates or frameworks that we use that break layouts? There are a lot of things that can wreck the ability of the site to work, as you all know.

My concern is that they will be as "quick" to fix those issues when they arise as they are to getting ONE fix made for their flagship product new release.

For a lot of my purposes, Zoo works fine and it's fairly well supported and comes out with regular new releases, so I'm not worried about them. I am not keen to go with the King option for many of the same reasons as I have issues with K2. Even though I've used other JoomUltra components and been happy with them, I'm not interested in jumping from one not-well-supported product to another.

I generally only use K2/Zoo for Blog purposes anyway and I'm getting pretty close to just using modified Joomla Category Blog views and a comment plugin at this point.

The real problem here is not wether or not K2 v3 will arrive and when, the problem is that people are getting really frustrated not getting any information at all about the next release. The first announcement was over a year ago. The latest blog post on this site dates from august last year. Some vage video from a Brazilian conference in september last year. Each question about v3 is answered with 'we can't say anything'. This makes you wonder if there is any progress on v3 and raises the question weather or not one should move on to another system like Zoo on Seblod.
I disagree the current version works fine. I can state a number of (design) flaws, like K2 not not being as responsive as it should be. I'm really hoping on improvements.

We're on the brink of a new major Joomla release, 3.5, somewhere in February. Let's cross our fingers K2 v2 is compatible.

So, dear JoomlaWorks: behind the scenes you're probably working your asses off, but please, please, tell us where you're at. Give us some update on the progress, some kind of roadmap, some features we can expect. Tell us a little bit more than 'we're working on it' and 'no dates yet'.

@Steven and the rest of you.
First of all, thank you for the patience. It really means a lot.
We will be able to post more info shortly.

Thank you Krikor.
Can't wait to hear the news... ;-)

Krikor wrote: @Steven and the rest of you.
First of all, thank you for the patience. It really means a lot.
We will be able to post more info shortly.

Hello Krikor, no word from u guys in months after you were suppose to release k2 v3 and you finally decide to write something like this? Almost 6 months ago you guys were just grasping at straws and saying you needed an extra 24 hours because the flight back from Joomla day was long and you guys had jetlag.

You personally have said the similar if not the same thing many times over the last 18 months and ever time it was a lie.

It's utterly embarrassing and completely disresprepectful that that is all you have to say after all the bs and lies over the last 18 months or more.

And let's be clear, in no way does your post represent any sort of communication.

I am sorry if this is harsh, but no one would put up with someone or a business who acted and treated you like k2 has done to its community.

I am one who is also frustrated by the slowness of the software coming out but only because I really love K2 and am eager to use the upgraded version. And, even more importantly, I am hoping for an upgraded support package. ie. I would like to pay JoomlaWorks for their software in exchange for reliable and quick support. This model serves me well with other companies.

I think it's very hard to accept for everyone, but K2 died a long time ago! What comes around, if it comes, will be only an undead!

My confidence in K2 ended in Janaro!

Hello Fellow K2-ers,

Perhaps we should try a different strategy, like helping each other with the tools() we currently have, instead of expressing disappointment in the tools that have not been completed.

That's what I've been doing - making the best of what I have - K2 v2.6.8 to be exact :)

I have pimped it out with countless hours of hard work and the assistance of some awesome people on this forum and within the Joomla! community.

I've tried to give back by periodically posting K2 Power Tips .

So who's with me? If you are, then you can do one or all of the following:

- Post link(s) to your K2 websites so we can provide #JFeedback to help further improve each others projects (UX, color, optimization, etc.)
- Post K2 Power Tips: unique K2-related use cases, extensions, hacks, and workarounds
- Make a commitment to respond to post on the forum

Here's a reminder image that I created - feel free to share :)



Have a K2-iffic Day,

Joe Campbell

I've just tested K2 2.6.9 on j3.5beta and it looks great. As long as K2 2.6.9 will work great on latest Joomla version, I don't mind to wait for K2v3.

@Zdenek +1

Me also do not mind waiting for the new version if it works. But the uncertainty is terrible. For older projects, it probably does not matter. But for new projects?

I watch what is happening around K2. I think that K2 is a dead project. Unfortunately...

If ever will new the version, I can not imagine that it will be commercial extensions. Trust is hard to build and easy to lose...

@Jan I agree with you about trust being hard to build and easy to lose

But we have to remember that K2 is not just an extension - it's a COMMUNITY

Saying such, we have to stick together and help one and other.

For starts, I would like to know what features do you require that's in v3 that's not in v2.6?

@Joe Campbell
I agree with you. Community and excellent quality extension K2 gives hope. K2 has been and still partly is timeless extension. Is a pity that is not part of the core Joomla :(

Main mistake JoomlaWorks I see in uncertainty for community.

@Jan - Let me know if there's anything I can do to assist you - us K2ers have to look out for one and other :-)

So far, I have posted a number of K2 Power Tips and plan on contribution more:
www.joomlaworks.net/forum/search?query=K2%20Power%20Tip&childforums=1

Sad is when you look at GitHub of k2-v3-dev-build and see latest commit 26 days ago. That just looks that K2 3 is just not a priority of Joomlaworks.

That is one way of looking at it - but another way is to consider the AWESOME forum support JoomlaWorks (special thanks to @Krikor and @Lefteris) has provided over the years.

So it's kind of like a parent who purchased an awesome top of the line sports car for you and took care of all of the maintenance as well - but for the past year or so that same parent promised you a new sports car - BUT - has yet to actually delivered on their promise of the new car.

Do you get mad at the broken promise and the lack of communications over when they will receive a new car - OR - should you remain patient and grateful for the car they provided - which by the way is still a hot car :-)

So - part of the issue is that there are other extensions out there that do some of the same things. When I look at K2 iteself, I ask what I'm really doing with it, which is usually using it as a Blog component, which others do fine - even Joomla Category Blog format works if you don't need comments and author blocks, but there are ways to deal with that as well.

When I want to do more, such as include Extra Fields, I can do that as well.

When I look at the "built in" gallery, in K2 I actually find it rather cumbersome to have to zip up pictures to include them and then have to do wierd FTP things or delete all pics to replace them. Not so bad for me, but for other staff members on my team who are less technical, or certainly my users, it's really hard for them. And captions on images with the built in system are also weird. Same goes for the video inclusions.

So - what does K2 REALLY bring for most folks who are putting it on new sites? The only thing that I've had to go back to K2 for lately is the module for displaying "latest" item on home page including the author block. Getting Zoo to do this is pretty impossible and there is no non-paid support for the product, and I think YooTheme is too expensive for Zoo, personally for the fact that I don't need any of their applications (like recipe, directory, etc).

Regarding "responsive": I haven't had the opportunity to test this since I've not really been using K2 since I moved to Joomla 3.x except for a site that doesn't have extra fields, so no real need to worry about responsive display of multi-column and also doesn't do multiple columns on the blog display page, so I don't really know what it would even do. However, having dealt with the template files before and looking at what is on the 2.5 site I currently use K2 on actively, I can see that there is no bootstrap incorporated, no responsive stuff natively, so I'd have to modify the display pretty heavily, which is not really something I want to have to spend my time on "recreating the wheel".

Mixed feelings, but especially unhappy with the lack of response from JoomlaWorks, especially with the lateness of the release for which there just doesn't seem any concern. I am especially confused by people who want to purchase a Pro support plan for this when it's been made abundantly clear that support for K2 is not a priority at this time.

Yes it is really strange behavior... nothing in one month.. and of course no communication at all...!