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What Happened to K2 3.0?
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8 years 9 months ago - 8 years 9 months ago #156089
by Steven Trooster
Replied by Steven Trooster on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
Yet another month has passed since the end of april. At Github it seems that the last activity was beginning of may. I don't want to be rude, but should we call the project dead, again? Or maybe someone who does have time to continue development, can fork K2.
Note: the first question in this topic was posted one year and three months ago…
Note: the first question in this topic was posted one year and three months ago…
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8 years 8 months ago #156104
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Hi Folks,
With the lack on information from the DEV Team I have no choice except to plan ahead and look at alternatives to K2. I am nervous about every Joomla upgrade and that it will break K2 and my Knowledge Database will no longer work.
Can anyone suggest some alternatives that work with a similar feature set.
Thanks
With the lack on information from the DEV Team I have no choice except to plan ahead and look at alternatives to K2. I am nervous about every Joomla upgrade and that it will break K2 and my Knowledge Database will no longer work.
Can anyone suggest some alternatives that work with a similar feature set.
Thanks
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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #156106
by Rupert Griffiths
Replied by Rupert Griffiths on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
I did a lot of research/testing into this, tried out a number of systems including King Content, ZOO and Seblod. I found ZOO to be the best by far.
So I switched to ZOO about 6 months ago and have not looked back. The quality of the system and integrations with widgetkit make it an amazing system. It allows much better frontend editing for my clients too, addition of galleries, video is so much easier for them too.
Better control over SEO, OG parameters, image resizing etc.
I think in some situations K2 is still better but they are the exception.
Using ZOO requires a bit of a learning curve, and its definitely worth paying for the add-ons from zoolanders too. But well worth it - it has changed the way I do websites and I now produce better work than when I used K2.
So I switched to ZOO about 6 months ago and have not looked back. The quality of the system and integrations with widgetkit make it an amazing system. It allows much better frontend editing for my clients too, addition of galleries, video is so much easier for them too.
Better control over SEO, OG parameters, image resizing etc.
I think in some situations K2 is still better but they are the exception.
Using ZOO requires a bit of a learning curve, and its definitely worth paying for the add-ons from zoolanders too. But well worth it - it has changed the way I do websites and I now produce better work than when I used K2.
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8 years 8 months ago #156796
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Replied by Scott Lavelle on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
August 1st....
Same 48 issues that have been there for months again plus 5 new ones after that.
When do we call it? I mean, obviously at this point I've moved on to almost exclusively using Zoo and some of my coming back here at this point is for SPORT, but it eventually has to be completed and released or shut down. Which is it?
Same 48 issues that have been there for months again plus 5 new ones after that.
When do we call it? I mean, obviously at this point I've moved on to almost exclusively using Zoo and some of my coming back here at this point is for SPORT, but it eventually has to be completed and released or shut down. Which is it?
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8 years 8 months ago #156798
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August 1st....
Same 48 issues that have been there for months again plus 5 new ones after that.
When do we call it? I mean, obviously at this point I've moved on to almost exclusively using Zoo and some of my coming back here at this point is for SPORT, but it eventually has to be completed and released or shut down. Which is it?
(and the forum gives me 500 errors trying to post)
Same 48 issues that have been there for months again plus 5 new ones after that.
When do we call it? I mean, obviously at this point I've moved on to almost exclusively using Zoo and some of my coming back here at this point is for SPORT, but it eventually has to be completed and released or shut down. Which is it?
(and the forum gives me 500 errors trying to post)
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8 years 8 months ago #156810
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Replied by Petar Elez on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
Badgering dev doesn't help the situation.
I love the project and would like to help finish v3 so I can use it on new projects as many features look appealing.
I don't know how to write the code but am willing to contribute funds to get it finalized.
Is anyone on this thread capable o writing solid code and taking care of the issues remaining?
What would the cost be?
If we can find a qualified person and get a quote, I propose create a crowd funding campaign and see if we can raise money to get it done.
Anyone else interested in this approach?
I love the project and would like to help finish v3 so I can use it on new projects as many features look appealing.
I don't know how to write the code but am willing to contribute funds to get it finalized.
Is anyone on this thread capable o writing solid code and taking care of the issues remaining?
What would the cost be?
If we can find a qualified person and get a quote, I propose create a crowd funding campaign and see if we can raise money to get it done.
Anyone else interested in this approach?
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8 years 8 months ago #156813
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Replied by Joe Campbell on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
+1
Try reaching out Mohamed Abdelaziz he is an advanced K2 developer:
www.joomreem.com/
www.linkedin.com/in/mzizo
www.joomlaworks.net/forum/profile/88370-mohamed-abdelaziz
Try reaching out Mohamed Abdelaziz he is an advanced K2 developer:
www.joomreem.com/
www.linkedin.com/in/mzizo
www.joomlaworks.net/forum/profile/88370-mohamed-abdelaziz
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8 years 7 months ago #156838
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I would also like to offer up the suggestion of breaking up the v3 features into manageable/realistic tasks for the 2.7 series.
I assume most K2ers would rather have steady version progress than huge innovative jumps.
Then by 2.7.9 the K2 community would receive everything proposed in v3.
This could also lead to more to a democratic approach for adding new features.
The community could vote on the features, which would help the K2 dev team to prioritize features.
Your thoughts?
I assume most K2ers would rather have steady version progress than huge innovative jumps.
Then by 2.7.9 the K2 community would receive everything proposed in v3.
This could also lead to more to a democratic approach for adding new features.
The community could vote on the features, which would help the K2 dev team to prioritize features.
Your thoughts?
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8 years 6 months ago #157803
by Steven Trooster
Replied by Steven Trooster on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
There are 54 issues on GitHub. This might seem a lot, but 34 issues are enhancement requests. So this leaves 20 issues unresolved, some of which are real showstoppers. (I've been doing some testing with the current version v3 available) So it's definitely not ready for production sites.
Either some developers should step in and help this project to get it going, or someone should fork this, or we officially should declare K2 dead and migrate to Zoo, Seblod or some other system. Leaving the current status, no progress, is just waiting for the moment K2 and Joomla will no longer work together.
Either some developers should step in and help this project to get it going, or someone should fork this, or we officially should declare K2 dead and migrate to Zoo, Seblod or some other system. Leaving the current status, no progress, is just waiting for the moment K2 and Joomla will no longer work together.
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8 years 6 months ago - 8 years 6 months ago #157804
by Steven Trooster
Replied by Steven Trooster on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
There are 54 issues on GitHub. This might seem a lot, but 34 issues are enhancement requests. So this leaves 20 issues unresolved, some of which are real showstoppers. (I've been doing some testing with the current version v3 available) So it's definitely not ready for production sites.
Either some developers should step in and help this project to get it going, or someone should fork this, or we officially should declare K2 dead and migrate to Zoo, Seblod or some other system.
Leaving the current status, no progress, is just waiting for the moment K2 and Joomla will no longer work together. This scares me a lot, since I run a site that has over 1700 articles in K2.
Either some developers should step in and help this project to get it going, or someone should fork this, or we officially should declare K2 dead and migrate to Zoo, Seblod or some other system.
Leaving the current status, no progress, is just waiting for the moment K2 and Joomla will no longer work together. This scares me a lot, since I run a site that has over 1700 articles in K2.
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8 years 6 months ago #158004
by Scott Lavelle
Replied by Scott Lavelle on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
Steven, You and I are a few of those who seem to care that this post is continually brought to the forefront. I hear some say things like "nagging the devs will not help" and others just blindly supporting the project, but here were go again - month after month of NO updates at all.
I might even understand if there were a bunch of new features being added all the time and being unable to release the final product because there was just "too much cool stuff", but these are the same long0pstanding issues that have been out here for quite some time. Every so often we get a boost of energy, either through a year-end announcement, the Joomla Day celebration in Brazil, or the new spring announcement this year, etc.
And then we are let down for months with no release and none in sight.
On one hand I just shouldn't care, as I have long since been using Zoo for my main K2 purpose, which was a Blog - or even resorting to a simple Joomla Article Blog layout with something like Komento and a lightly modified Joomla article emplate, incorporating a simple "author" block of some sort in a module (I haven't actually done the author part of this, though I can't imagine it to be too difficult - and it would really only need to be done once to replicate out to other templates).
Anyway - there are things I liked about K2 and things that still are good - like better modules than what ZOO offers out of the box and an implementation that llows for the use of Read More rather than a separate text area, etc. But really, the end result is SO similar between the two, it comes down to plugins and such tha make K2 "better",
It seems that the K2 team would want to capitalize on the few things that actually still separate them from the competition before being declared dead by the community, weather actually dead or not.
Come on development team - at least participate in the conversation!
I might even understand if there were a bunch of new features being added all the time and being unable to release the final product because there was just "too much cool stuff", but these are the same long0pstanding issues that have been out here for quite some time. Every so often we get a boost of energy, either through a year-end announcement, the Joomla Day celebration in Brazil, or the new spring announcement this year, etc.
And then we are let down for months with no release and none in sight.
On one hand I just shouldn't care, as I have long since been using Zoo for my main K2 purpose, which was a Blog - or even resorting to a simple Joomla Article Blog layout with something like Komento and a lightly modified Joomla article emplate, incorporating a simple "author" block of some sort in a module (I haven't actually done the author part of this, though I can't imagine it to be too difficult - and it would really only need to be done once to replicate out to other templates).
Anyway - there are things I liked about K2 and things that still are good - like better modules than what ZOO offers out of the box and an implementation that llows for the use of Read More rather than a separate text area, etc. But really, the end result is SO similar between the two, it comes down to plugins and such tha make K2 "better",
It seems that the K2 team would want to capitalize on the few things that actually still separate them from the competition before being declared dead by the community, weather actually dead or not.
Come on development team - at least participate in the conversation!
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8 years 6 months ago #158193
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Replied by shoulders on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
in fairness, the developers have released 2.7.0 and 2.7.1 recently. I am just waiting on the UI to get updated/fixed before I upgrade.
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8 years 6 months ago #158196
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True.
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8 years 6 months ago #158197
by Steven Trooster
Replied by Steven Trooster on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
Though there were some updates, these were only admin interface changes. The really much anticipated version 3, which I've tested, is far from production ready, and doesn't have the much needed feature improvements. Judging from the activity on GitHub (and the participation of the developers in this discussion), I don't think there will be a 3.0 version any time soon.
I've looking into alternatives. Seblod I couldn't get installed. A lot of install sql-errors. Zoo, out of the box seems really complex to set up.
I've found EasyBlog a really fantastic option, which I'm investigating into detail. It has a K2 migration tool and lots of features that are either missing or only available with (commercial) third party plugins for K2. And very good support.
I've looking into alternatives. Seblod I couldn't get installed. A lot of install sql-errors. Zoo, out of the box seems really complex to set up.
I've found EasyBlog a really fantastic option, which I'm investigating into detail. It has a K2 migration tool and lots of features that are either missing or only available with (commercial) third party plugins for K2. And very good support.
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8 years 5 months ago #158345
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Replied by Scott Lavelle on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
Steven - if you want to take it offline from here to discuss how to get a Blog up quickly with Zoo, I could have that chat - just don't want to use the K2 forum for such a conversation. I can tell you that I can get a Blog with an author block and comments up on a site in <30 minutes with Zoo. Of course, there might be some template work to do with it, but that would go for any component.
Let me know if you are interested in a chat sometime.
Let me know if you are interested in a chat sometime.
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8 years 5 months ago #158613
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Hi, thank you for keep this project live and release 2.7.x versions. is there any new news of k2 v3?! after release post of k2 2.7.0 you say:
and now is october. is it a new long late? or we hear new good news soon?
K2 v3 development has re-ignited and is on a steady track for a realistic release date by late April 2016
and now is october. is it a new long late? or we hear new good news soon?
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8 years 5 months ago #158614
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Replied by Luciano on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
I suspect that every time someone asks "when the 3.x will be released?" the development team adds 6+ months of delay, only because this question.
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8 years 3 months ago #159873
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Any news on v3.0?
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #159874
by Steven Trooster
Replied by Steven Trooster on topic What Happened to K2 3.0?
There has been no progress on Github since oktober. Apparently the amount of developers has gone down to a minimum. I did try to get in touch with JoomlaWorks support, to offer some assistance, but for more than three weeks I didn't receive any response.
Maybe some guys should step up and fork K2?
Maybe some guys should step up and fork K2?
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8 years 3 months ago #159935
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